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Post by United Barbaros on May 21, 2018 3:42:09 GMT
Good question. I can't say I've put much thought into it.
Although personally, I don't think the region has enough active members for a jury system as of now.
The thought was the monarch or the Lord Chancellor would select jury members randomly to go over evidence, discuss in a private channel, and deliver a verdict.
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Post by Nyelant on May 24, 2018 23:24:39 GMT
Okay. New thought: get this thing going before the June elections. I'm going to be making something tonight. Rhein , in your factbook it says that the Prime Minister is elected every two months by popular vote, and also elected by the council or whatnot. I'm thinking of keeping the PM and Legislature separate, where the PM is solely executive, appointing cabinet and stuff along with the monarch. The PM submits appointments to the Legislature (which I'd really like to call the Regional Council, with members being Councillors) for review. The RC is solely legislative and governs how the region works. The PM and their cabinet may also participate in the RC. The position of "Speaker of the Assembly of All" would be transferred over to the "Speaker of the Regional Council" and preside over it. United Barbaros I see no current problems with the Judiciary, as we've only had to use it once and it was effective.
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Post by Nyelant on May 25, 2018 0:03:12 GMT
THIS IS MY FINAL IDEA/SUBMISSION. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I MADE ANY MISTAKES.
Article II: The Executive. Section I: The Monarchy [§1.] The chief authority of the region shall be vested in a Monarch. [§2.] The Monarch shall serve until they resign, cease to exist, or are recalled by the Legislature. The Legislature can only remove the Monarch from power by a three-fourths majority. [§3.] The Monarch holds power to declare war, discipline nations in-game, call special elections, and, in extreme circumstances, dissolve the government entirely. [§4.] The Monarch may veto any bill passed by the Legislature, making changes as they see fit to be re-submitted into the Legislature. [§4.] The Monarch holds exclusive power to grant honorary feudal titles to citizens as they see fit. [§5.] The Monarch shall be entrusted with all possible regional officer power in-game. [§6.] The Monarch may at any given time appoint a successor to the position. In the event of a vacancy in the Monarchy, the Prime Minister shall take over the responsibilities until a new Monarch is selected. In such circumstances, the Cabinet will be responsible for determining how the successor will be chosen.
Section II: The Prime Minister [§7.] The citizens of Londinium shall, every three (3) months, elect another citizen by popular vote to serve as Prime Minister of the region. [§8.] A citizen may serve as Prime Minister for any number of terms, but may only serve two (2) consecutively. [§9.] The Prime Minister shall appoint a Cabinet, composed of citizens they deem qualified. The positions shall include: • [9.1] a Minister of Population, responsible for recruiting new members for the region, • [9.2] a Minister of Development, responsible for internal regional affairs, such as encouraging regional involvement in government or other regional events, • [9.3] a Chief Diplomat, responsible for representing Londinium in other regions and appointing assisting diplomats as necessary. • [9.4] and an Attorney General, whose role is outlined in the Attorney General Act. [§10.] The Prime Minister may appoint and dismiss additional Cabinet ministers as they see fit.
Article III: The Legislature. Section I: Overview [§1.] Londinium shall adopt a unicameral legislature who, herein, shall exercise the primary legislative authority of the region. The single Legislative chamber shall be composed of an indefinite number of members, holding office for an unlimited amount of time. [§2.] The Legislature of Londinium shall henceforth be known as the "Regional Council", with "Councillors" as members. The abbreviation "RC" may be used for the Regional Council. [§3.] The Legislature may determine the rules of its proceedings through the adoption of a standing rules of order. [§4.] The Legislature shall elect, concurrent to the Prime Minister, a Speaker of the Regional Council, whose powers are outlined in Article III, Section V
Section II - Membership [§2.] Seats in the commission shall be granted through application, reviewed and voted on by current legislators. Applicants will be granted membership after their application is approved. [§3.] The Legislature may expel a member with the consent of two-thirds of all seated legislators. [§4.] The requirements for admission to the Legislature shall be as follows: • [4.1] The applicant must have been a citizen of Londinium for at least 20 days. • [4.2] The applicant must have at least forty (40) posts on the regional forum. • [4.3] The applicant must not have been previously convicted of a crime in Londinium. [§5.] A citizen disqualified from the Legislature by the terms outlined in Section I, §4 must submit legislation through a seated citizen, who then becomes responsible for the legislation.
Section III - Powers [§1.] The Regional Council has the authority to pass laws governing the region through a simple majority vote in favour from a quorum of members. [§2.] The Regional Council shall have the power to override the veto of the Monarch provided two-thirds give their support to the bill. [§3.] The Regional Council shall confirm all appointments by the Prime Minister to the judiciary. [§4.] The Regional Council shall meet and conduct business in a designated offsite location. [§5.] The Regional Council shall have the sole power to try all impeachments of government officials. When sitting for that purpose, the Lord Chancellor shall preside. No individual shall be convicted or removed from office without the consent of two-thirds of the Commission.
Section IV - Provisions for the division of the House [§1.] The option to divide the House Legislature in two shall become available at thirty (30) members. [§2.] The division of the House Legislature must be approved by a majority of House its members. [§3.] A divided House Legislature must have both an upper house (see Section IV, §4) and a lower house (see Section IV, §5). [§4.] A theoretical upper house shall: • [4.1] Consist of five (5) members, elected to coincide with the Prime Minister's elections. • [4.2] Review legislation submitted by the lower house before the passing of said legislation. [§5.] A theoretical lower house shall: • [5.1] Have the same terms of admission outlined in Section I, §4. • [5.2] Create legislation then submit said legislation to the upper house for review. [§6.] Both houses shall elect a speaker from amongst themselves to preside of both houses at the start of every gubernatorial period. [§7.] The process for removing a member from a house follows the same rules as in Section I, §3, with this addition: • [7.1] The monarch may remove any member from the upper house as they see fit. [§8.] If cumulative membership in both houses does not exceed the number outlined in Section IV, §1, the decision may be taken to amalgamate both houses back into one. This decision must be approved by a majority of the members of both houses.
Section V - The Speaker of the Regional Council [§1.] As outlined in Article III, Section I, §6, the Speaker of the Regional Council is elected in tandem with the Prime Minister every three (3) months. [§2.] The Speaker of the Regional Council shall preside over the Regional Council, not able to vote on legislation unless there is an even tie. [§3.] The Speaker of the Regional Council may request that the Regional Council be dissolved, in cases where it is pertinent to Regional Security.
Article IV: The Judiciary. [§1.] The Judiciary shall consist of a Lord Chancellor, appointed by the Monarch, and a minimum of two Justices, appointed by the Regional Council on the advice of the Prime Minister.. These must not concurrently be members of the Executive or the Regional Council. [§2.] Members shall hold the position from their appointment until they resign, cease to exist, or are removed from office by the Monarch or the Regional Council. [§3.] The Judiciary shall review and determine the legality of all laws, executive actions, and appointments as deemed necessary. They have the authority to reverse any decision on reasonable grounds.
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Post by Lady Cari on May 25, 2018 13:12:18 GMT
Personally I think "Regional Council" implies a higher degree of exclusivity, and I would suggest calling it the Regional Assembly (or perhaps Union Assembly) instead, but I have no objections otherwise. So I'll go back to my armchair.
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Rhein
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Post by Rhein on May 25, 2018 15:51:16 GMT
It is best not to prolong these talks. Your submission is fine, I would only scraps Article 3.4 because even with 30 active members one chamber is enough. Unless the other chamber has other, significant, tasks compared with the 'current' one.
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Post by Nyelant on May 25, 2018 16:00:40 GMT
Rhein Thank you for reminding me to change that. I'll put the limit at an at-this-point unattainable 30 people. Lady Cari I like the demonym Councillor over Assembly-person, so I think Regional Council works better for me.
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Post by United Barbaros on May 26, 2018 2:55:28 GMT
Where do the offices of Attorney General and Defense Attorney fit into this? Or do they? I thought they were also included in the Constitution.
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Post by Nyelant on May 26, 2018 11:52:49 GMT
It is technically included in the constitution. The PM can appoint other cabinet ministers as they see fit, so AG, and DG would fall under that umbrella. The acts establishing them only say what responsibilities they have, were one to be appointed.
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Post by United Barbaros on May 26, 2018 18:59:31 GMT
If I'm correct, I believe the bills for each office state that they need to be picked, not based on need.
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Post by Nyelant on May 26, 2018 19:27:54 GMT
Fine.
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Post by United Barbaros on May 26, 2018 19:29:34 GMT
DA, I can understand being based on need. However, for AG, I think it has more necessity, since we should have someone who can prosecute readily.
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Post by Nyelant on May 26, 2018 19:33:09 GMT
Done.
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Post by Nyelant on May 26, 2018 19:33:28 GMT
Now, can we send this off for vote?
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Post by Nyelant on May 26, 2018 19:51:30 GMT
No answer means yes after 6:00 PM AST.
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Post by United Barbaros on May 26, 2018 20:21:03 GMT
I assume I will be putting this to vote on the forum
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