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Post by Bymaria on Sept 9, 2017 21:48:29 GMT
An increasing number of articles have been published lately following the Trump-Russia story, but what do you guys think? Is it true or is it just another conspiracy?
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Post by Bymaria on Sept 9, 2017 21:49:48 GMT
There was undoubtedly contact between Trump and Russia and I think collusion on some scale, but as to wether or not they hacked the election I'm not sure.
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Post by Fortwhile on Oct 31, 2017 5:10:02 GMT
Interesting developments today on this topic. Still too early to say, but not good for Trump for sure.
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Post by Bymaria on Oct 31, 2017 7:11:13 GMT
Interesting developments today on this topic. Still too early to say, but not good for Trump for sure. I've just woken up to the headlines about Paul Manafort. It will be interesting to see how things progress.
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Post by thechampion on Nov 10, 2017 3:59:12 GMT
i don't worry about russia
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Post by Bymaria on Jan 6, 2018 18:22:44 GMT
I see the new book is causing some chaos. I'm waiting on it being delivered.
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Post by Fortwhile on Jan 6, 2018 18:33:46 GMT
Mine is en route so I bought the kindle version because I couldn't wait.
I mean, conservative media is trashing it as full of lies. But if even 50% of this is true, it's pretty disturbing.
Disclaimer: I'm not, and have never been, a Trump fan.
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Post by Bymaria on Jan 6, 2018 18:52:34 GMT
It's disturbing enough to know what is already acknowledged as true - I am also not a supporter of Trump as you can possibly tell. Are you American? It'd be interesting to see what people think who actually live under his presidency (most over on this side of the Atlantic strongly disapprove of him, excepting the controversial Katy Hopkins who is largely regarded as a xenophobic idiot).
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Post by germanempire on Jan 6, 2018 18:59:42 GMT
It's disturbing enough to know what is already acknowledged as true - I am also not a supporter of Trump as you can possibly tell. Are you American? It'd be interesting to see what people think who actually live under his presidency (most over on this side of the Atlantic strongly disapprove of him, excepting the controversial Katy Hopkins who is largely regarded as a xenophobic idiot). Well not all strongly disapprove of him (not as much as Hillary Clinton). I find him to be quite amusing , alltough a bit lacking of taste anf a certain dignity. America is better off without the Clintons (and the democratic party as a whole). To be honest the entire party System of the USA is just not doing its job.
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Post by Fortwhile on Jan 6, 2018 19:09:34 GMT
It's disturbing enough to know what is already acknowledged as true - I am also not a supporter of Trump as you can possibly tell. Are you American? It'd be interesting to see what people think who actually live under his presidency (most over on this side of the Atlantic strongly disapprove of him, excepting the controversial Katy Hopkins who is largely regarded as a xenophobic idiot). Well not all strongly disapprove of him (not as much as Hillary Clinton). I find him to be quite amusing , alltough a bit lacking of taste anf a certain dignity. America is better off without the Clintons (and the democratic party as a whole). To be honest the entire party System of the USA is just not doing its job. I feel like this will depend by country? Most of western Europe approved much more of Secretary Clinton. I'm biased because there's a 0% chance of me voting for The Donald again in three years. I had a brief hope he would be a centrist middleman, just cutting deals that would end up in a wash for most people. But he's been a conservative stooge who has just fought for righty measures and hasn't been that good at doing even that.
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Post by germanempire on Jan 6, 2018 20:22:18 GMT
Well I like him being not centrist and tending to the right / conservative. If I despise anything , then it is American liberals and sjw's.
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Post by Fortwhile on Jan 6, 2018 20:49:02 GMT
Well I like him being not centrist and tending to the right / conservative. If I despise anything , then it is American liberals and sjw's. What about conservative ideology appeals to you, out of curiosity?
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Post by Bymaria on Jan 6, 2018 20:54:32 GMT
It’s more his stupidity and personality that I truly despise, though his policies do seem ridiculous to me as well.
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Post by germanempire on Jan 6, 2018 20:57:25 GMT
Traditionalism, Christian values (not the blind following of the bible) and the potential anti Globalisim and anti communism.
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Post by Fortwhile on Jan 6, 2018 21:31:10 GMT
Traditionalism, Christian values (not the blind following of the bible) and the potential anti Globalisim and anti communism. Interesting. So very anti-establishment conservativism, vs. traditional economic conservativism. I think Trump echoes the rhetoric of the former well, but has pretty much only accomplished things in the vein of economic conservatism (huge tax breaks for the mega wealthy etc.)
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